Just before the 4th, Ryan and sat down for a chat with Nem and the rest of the crew at Geek Muse - the results are available on iTunes, from their site or as a plain MP3. Be aware, like ZeroLogic, this one carries the Explicit tag… For the URLs and notes, click here.
My wife doesn’t think it sounds like me but the audio is great! Ryan and I had a great time (many thanks Nem, if you ever need another voice, shout!) - enjoy! Oh, and Nem, thanks for leaving in the part about cream cheese 
Nathaniel T. Schutta is a software architect and Java Champion focused on cloud computing, developer happiness and building usable applications. A proponent of polyglot programming, Nate has written multiple books, appeared in countless videos and many podcasts. He’s also a seasoned speaker who regularly presents at worldwide conferences, No Fluff Just Stuff symposia, meetups, universities, and user groups. In addition to his day job, Nate is an adjunct professor at the University of Minnesota, where he teaches students to embrace (and evaluate) technical change. Driven to rid the world of bad presentations, he coauthored the book Presentation Patterns with Neal Ford and Matthew McCullough, and he also published Thinking Architecturally and Responsible Microservices available from O’Reilly. His latest book, Fundamentals of Software Engineering, is currently available in early release.
